HealthWeek No. 126
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SHARYL ATTKISSON: Today on
HealthWeek... Should you get your thyroid checked? Millions of
people have a thyroid problem and don't know it.
They're popping up everywhere... from orange juice to antacids.
But what do those seals-of-approval from medical groups really mean?
MICHAEL JACOBSON, PhD, CENTER FOR
SCIENCE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST: "These organizations,
every time they make an endorsement deal, are losing a little bit of
SHARYL ATTKISSON: The
whole story behind the "seal" deals.
And ghosts, goblins, and ghouls... why we love scaring ourselves
Hello. I'm Sharyl
Attkisson. Welcome to HealthWeek.
Ginkgo Biloba. It's a strange term, but you've probably been
hearing a lot of it lately. You can hardly turn on the TV or flip
through a magazine without seeing someone singing the praises of
this herbal supplement. In our Behind the Headlines segment, we look
at what's being done to test the most amazing of those claims: that
ginkgo helps people with Alzheimer's disease. This week, researchers
released the first major U.S. study on the subject. And the results
are generating as many questions as answers. HealthWeek's Marcia
Brazda has details.
MARCIA BRAZDA: Wayne
Kornblatt can tell you that even before the latest study, ginkgo was
one of the hottest movers in his health-food store. Some people
swear this product made from the leaves of the ginkgo tree can do
everything from fine-tune your memory to jump-start your sex life.
WAYNE KORNBLATT, SPROUTS HEALTH
MARKET: "It's been used and known for its ability to
increase circulation, oxygenate the brain, the heart, and all the
other muscles of the body, helping to not only lower blood pressure,
but help in memory, in cognitive memory retention."
MARCIA BRAZDA: Now,
there's evidence to back up at least one of those claims. This
week's Journal of the American Medical Association includes a study
on the effects of a ginkgo extract, known as EGB 761. More than 200
people were studied and all had senile dementia caused by
Alzheimer's disease or reduced blood flow to the brain. And six
months out, the researchers were pleased with what they saw.
PIERRE LE BARS, MD, PhD, NEW YORK
INSTITUTE FOR MEDICAL RESEARCH: "Overall, we had
encouraging results with 50 percent of the population taking this
drug who showed better performance in their thought process."
Specifically, people who took three ginkgo pills a day,
totalling 120 milligrams, scored twice as well on tests that measure
thinking as those who took placebo, or "dummy" pills.
WOMAN: "What's the name of
this finger? Do you know what this finger is?"
PATIENT: "The thumb."
WOMAN: "And what about
MARCIA BRAZDA: And that's
not all. People caring for patients who took ginkgo were 40 percent
more likely to report improvements in day-to-day living.
One brain researcher at the National Institute on Aging... while
intrigued by the new findings, is urging caution.
MARCELLE MORRISON-BOGORAD, PhD,
NATIONAL INSTITUTE ON AGING: "But it wasn't an all or
nothing effect, it really wasn't. It was fairly modest. So that's
not what we want from a wonder drug. We're saving 'wonder' for
MARCIA BRAZDA: She also
warns the study looked only at whether ginkgo could help people with
senile dementia, not those who are healthy.
PhD: "The bottom line is nothing has been published yet
about whether ginkgo prevents the onset of Alzheimer's. So someone
taking it in the hope that it would stop them getting it is really
on shaky ground."
MARCIA BRAZDA: Still,
Wayne Cornblatt and health food owners across the nation are bracing
themselves for a new wave of customers, and a new wave of questions.
SHARYL ATTKISSON: Joining
us from New York to answer some of those questions is Sarah Masters,
news director for Reuters Health Information Services.
This study was funded by a company that actually makes ginkgo
extract, so how trustworthy are the results?
SARAH MASTERS, NEWS DIRECTOR:
Well, I think they are trustworthy in the sense that the
data were all reviewed by health care professionals prior to
publication in a prestigious medical journal, the Journal of the
American Medical Association. There were, however, some problems
with the study. One is that a lot of the enrollees dropped out,
particularly those that were taking the placebo, or dummy, pill, and
they only studied one dose of Ginkgo Biloba extract. So, that's a
SHARYL ATTKISSON: For
those who remained in the study, we did hear a lot about the
potential benefits of it. What do we know about the risks?
SARAH MASTERS: Well, today
there haven't been too many reports of any major side effects
associated with Ginkgo Biloba, if you take it alone. The concern
seems to be if you take ginkgo at the same time as you take, for
instance, aspirin, vitamin E, the prescription anticoagulants,
because all of those are called anti-clotting factors, and they can
cause internal bleeding, particularly if they're taken together.
SHARYL ATTKISSON: There
are already two FDA approved drugs to treat Alzheimer's. Do we know
how the ginkgo extract appears to stack up against those?
SARAH MASTERS: To date,
they seem to be fairly equivalent. Those two are Tacrine and
Donepezil, and they're recommended for Alzheimer's disease,
short-term, moderate improvement. The difference is that those two
drugs are regulated by the government and the extract is not.
Therefore, you know how much dose you're getting every time you
take one of those two drugs, and you also know that it's not
contaminated with anything else. You can't say the same for the
ginkgo, because it's not regulated by the government.
SHARYL ATTKISSON: And
people will want to know, is the type of the ginkgo extract in the
study available right now in the United States? Can people go out to
the store and buy it?
SARAH MASTERS: Apparently
it is. The investigators are cautioning that anybody who wants to
purchase this look for the EGB 761 on the label. That is the same
brand that was used in the study.
SHARYL ATTKISSON: All
right. Sarah Masters, thank you so much for the information.
SARAH MASTERS: Thank you
Nuts from the fruit of
the ginkgo tree are often used in Chinese and Japanese cooking.
You don't have any
energy, your body thermostat is out of whack, and you've put on a
few pounds even though you watch what you eat. It might just be a
sign that you're getting older. But, for some people, it could be a
sign of a more serious problem, one that some doctors think everyone
over age 35 should be tested for. HealthWeek's Andrew Holtz in
Portland, Oregon has more.
ANDREW HOLTZ: Like a bloom
cut from its roots, florist Aretta Christie was wilting. She was
tired, swollen, her skin yellowed. Confusion fogged her mind. And
her doctor couldn't explain it.
Basically, I thought I was crazy, and so, I mean at a certain point
I just quit going to the doctor, because I thought it was a
condition that I just had to accept.
ANDREW HOLTZ: After a
year, another doctor suggested testing her thyroid. Results showed
it had failed. When at last she was treated with thyroid hormone,
she says she got her life back.
ARETTA CHRISTIE: Wow, I
could just take this little pill, and suddenly I could think again,
and basically I was me again.
ANDREW HOLTZ: The thyroid
is a small butterfly-shaped gland just below the Adam's apple. The
thyroid gland produces hormones that travel through the blood to
every part of the body, telling it how fast to work and use energy.
Among older Americans, as many as one in thirteen may have low
levels of thyroid hormone, hypothyroidism, which can cause fatigue,
coldness, or even heart or mental problems.
JEPHTA DRACHMAN: They've
grown so much! Look at that.
ANDREW HOLTZ: But often
there are no clear symptoms. Jephta Drachman says she was feeling
perfectly healthy when a routine check-up and then follow-up testing
discovered hypothyroidism. She began taking thyroid hormone
JEPHTA DRACHMAN: I thought
this was kind of crazy, I was feeling fine anyway, and then
gradually I started to develop more and more energy, and I lost some
weight, and I really started to feel as if I could keep going
PAUL LADENSON, MD: "Here's
the result of your antithyroid antibody test."
ANDREW HOLTZ: Because mild
thyroid problems often remain hidden, some experts, including
researchers at Johns Hopkins, argue thyroid screening tests should
PAUL LADENSON, MD, JOHNS HOPKINS
UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE: Our study found that
screening American adults beginning at age 35 every five years with
a blood test, the serum TSH, to detect mild hypothyroidism was as
effective a preventive medical measure as screening for many other
ANDREW HOLTZ: But other
doctors say that sort of mass screening would go too far, that it
would be expensive, unnecessary, and perhaps even harmful.
MARK HELFAND, MD, OREGON HEALTH
SCIENCES UNIVERSITY: The controversy is whether you
should find people who have signs on lab tests of thyroid failure,
but who pretty much are otherwise healthy.
ANDREW HOLTZ, PORTLAND,
OREGON: Some doctors worry that widespread screening
tests could lead to millions of people being put on life-long
thyroid treatment, even if their test results were just borderline,
and they say the evidence to justify that kind of widespread
treatment just doesn't exist.
For example, the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force, which
issues guidelines on a variety of screening tests, calls for thyroid
testing only when there is a reason to suspect a problem, not
routine screening of healthy people.
ROBERT LAWRENCE, MD, US PREVENTIVE
SERVICES TASK FORCE: We found not a single study
supporting the benefit of screening as being greater than the
potential harms associated with it.
LIGIA MCDONALD: "That's
ANDREW HOLTZ: Looking back
at a college yearbook picture of herself and her future husband,
Ligia McDonald wishes she were still that thin and energetic. But
three years ago, she suddenly gained 40 pounds and began sleeping up
to 14 hours a day. Her doctor ran a thyroid test.
LIGIA MCDONALD: It came
back that although my thyroid was normal, it was on the low side of
normal, so then that's when he prescribed the thyroid medication.
ANDREW HOLTZ: She says her
weight began dropping and her energy returned. But then a follow-up
exam found she was getting too much thyroid hormone, which can cause
abnormal heart rhythms and accelerate osteoporosis.
LIGIA MCDONALD: It wasn't
worth the risk, obviously, so I cut it cold turkey.
ANDREW HOLTZ: Critics of
widespread testing worry some doctors might not detect the warning
signs of over-treatment, as they did in Ligia's case.
TOM SEGERSON, MD: "Take
ANDREW HOLTZ: But
supporters of more screening say the real problem is the number of
people who need thyroid medication and aren't getting it.
TOM SEGERSON, MD, OREGON HEALTH
SCIENCES UNIVERSITY: The risk of over-treatment or an
unnecessary treatment of people without thyroid disease should not
dissuade us from examining more carefully how aggressive we should
be at screening the population.
ANDREW HOLTZ: Even the
critics of screening say any suspicions of thyroid problems should
be checked out. Until more studies can help experts agree on testing
people without symptoms, the decisions will have to be made on a
MICHAEL MCCLUNG, MD, PROVIDENCE
MEDICAL CENTER: Treating the patient and evaluating the
patient is what medicine is supposed to be about, rather than
ANDREW HOLTZ: As Aretta
Christie knows, successfully discovering and treating thyroid
problems can be as difficult, and as rewarding, as tending to an
SHARYL ATTKISSON: The
people we just heard about suffer from hypothyroidism. But there's
another thyroid disorder that often goes undetected as well. It's
called hyperthyroidism, when the thyroid gland produces too much
hormone. Doctor Sheldon Rubenfeld, author of "Could It Be My
Thyroid?" tells how to recognize the warning signs for both
SHELDON RUBENFELD, MD, AUTHOR "COULD
IT BE MY THYROID?": Well, people who have hypothyroidism,
wherein they're not making enough thyroid hormone, or
hyperthyroidism, wherein they're making too much thyroid hormone,
can actually have similar symptoms.
Both groups of patients may present fatigue, an extremely common
symptom, "I have no energy. I'm very tired, I can't get accomplished
everything I want to accomplish." Hair loss, with thyroid disease,
both hyper and hypothyroidism, you may lose hair. Once you're
treated, the hair will return. People may have memory loss with both
hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism. In hyperthyroidism, their mind
It's hard to concentrate on things. It's hard to remember things.
In hypothyroidism, their mind is somewhat sluggish. It's hard to
remember things. People who do not make enough thyroid hormone
frequently get cold. Hyperthyroidism causes people to be hot. So
you'll notice that people who are hyperthyroid are taking clothes
off. They're hot when other people are feeling perfectly fine.
Almost all thyroid disorders, fortunately, are treatable. It's
unusual to find life-threatening thyroid disorders.
SHARYL ATTKISSON: If you'd
like more information about thyroid screening, or any other
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of the program.
NANCY SNYDERMAN, MD: Hello, I'm Doctor Nancy
Snyderman with this week's Healthful Hint.
When you step into a hot tub or whirlpool bath, relaxation is
usually the main thing on your mind, but you may also want to give
your health more than a passing thought. If you're pregnant, or
think you might be, stay away from a hot tub. The hot water can hurt
your growing fetus. For the rest of you, there's the warm, moist
conditions. That can be a problem, because the warm water can
encourage the growth of germs that can cause everything from skin
rashes to Legionnaire's Disease. As a rule of thumb, the more often
your tub is used, the more often you'll have to add disinfectant.
One way to cut down on disinfectant use is to get your guests to
bathe or shower before jumping in. The cleaner they are, the cleaner
your hot tub will stay. Make sure the water temperature doesn't get
hotter than 104 degrees, and never drink alcoholic beverages before
going in the tub. Not only does alcohol make you feel drowsy, but it
makes your body more likely to overheat. Also beware of the drain.
Make sure it's covered. Don't sit on it, and if you have long hair,
be sure to put it up so it doesn't get caught. Then you can finally
sit back and relax. With Healthful Hints, I'm Doctor Nancy
SHARYL ATTKISSON: You may have noticed them on
something you bought, those little seals of approval from health
groups. The American Medical Association recently agreed to put its
logo on Sunbeam home health products, products the AMA hadn't even
tested, in exchange for millions of dollars in royalties from sales.
But the AMA was forced to back out of the deal after many consumer
groups and doctors denounced it as unethical. Now, other health
seals are facing similar criticism. But as HealthWeek's Dr. Robert
Davis found out, not all seals are created equal.
ROBERT DAVIS, PhD: They're
everywhere... on orange juice, antacids, cereals, shoe insoles, and
These days, you can't go down a store aisle without spotting some
health-related seal of approval. Of course, they're supposed to make
us buy the product, and they seem to be working.
WOMAN: "I would probably
buy the one with the seal because I would feel that the advertising
on it or the informational content is more correct."
MAN: "If I'm making a
comparison between one product that doesn't have it and one that
does, I might be swayed."
TV COMMERCIAL: Crest with
Floristan, so different it's patented, so effective, Crest is the
only toothpaste recognized effective against cavities by the
American Dental Association.
ROBERT DAVIS, PhD: It was
the American Dental Association's seal that helped make Crest the
top selling toothpaste in the 1960's. The ADA's approval program,
which has been around more than 60 years, is widely considered the
GARY RAINWATER, DDS, PRES, AMERICAN
DENTAL ASSOC: The consumer, when they walk down that
aisle and they look at a product and they see that seal, they know
three things: number one that the product works, that
it's effective, number two that it's safe, and that it does what it
says it does."
ROBERT DAVIS, PhD: To earn
the ADA seal, products are subjected to a rigorous review; more than
30% don't make the cut. Once accepted, companies must also submit
all their ads for approval and pay a yearly fee.
GARY RAINWATER: That
covers one third of the cost of the program. The other two thirds
comes out of our pocket and out of our members' dues.
ROBERT DAVIS, PhD: The
American Heart Association has a similar program for food. This
check mark means the product is low in fat and cholesterol.
NANCY CHAPMAN, AMERICAN HEART
ASSOC: This is not an endorsement program. This is really
a certification program that states that this has really got the
kinds of nutritional profile that will help reduce the risk of heart
ROBERT DAVIS, PhD: But
many consumers seem to have a different interpretation.
MAN: "I think they are
endorsing the product in the sense that they are saying that this
product itself is going to be able to definitely not hurt my heart
and it's actually a good product."
WOMAN: "They're letting
you know that that is good for you and the other one is not."
ROBERT DAVIS, PhD: But
that's not necessarily the case. For example, Kellogg's Raisin Bran
has the heart check, but Post Raisin Bran doesn't. Not because the
Post cereal is less nutritious, but because it's made by a company
that also sells tobacco, and the Heart Association bars such
companies from participating in the program.
C. WAYNE CALLAWAY, MD, AMER SOCIETY
FOR NUTRITIONAL SCIENCES: The consumer can get very, very
ROBERT DAVIS, PhD: Dr.
Wayne Callaway, who's served on the Heart Association's Nutrition
Committee, worries seals may give the misleading impression that
approved foods are good, and all others bad.
C. WAYNE CALLAWAY, MD: The
seals are overly simplistic. It is day-in, day-out, week-in,
week-out dietary balance over time plus exercise that improves
health. A single food, one way or another, is not going to do it.
ROBERT DAVIS, PhD: In
addition to the Heart Check program, the Heart Association has
lucrative marketing agreements with various product manufacturers.
For example, it's receiving $450,000 from the Florida Department of
Citrus for allowing its logo to appear in Florida grapefruit ads.
TV COMMERCIAL: It's
naturally fat-free and cholesterol-free.
ROBERT DAVIS, PhD: And the
Heart Association is far from alone. The American Cancer Society has
a similar arrangement with Florida orange juice, bringing in $1
million a year.
The Cancer Society also has an exclusive partnership with
Nicoderm Quit-Smoking Patches, for another 1 million a year.
Meanwhile, the American Lung Association has a deal with a
competing product, Nicotrol, for 2.5 million.
And the National Osteoporosis Foundation has teamed up with Tums
antacids, to the tune of $2.1 million.
All these groups emphasize they're in no way endorsing products,
but instead joining forces with corporations and using their money
to help educate the public about important health issues. Many
consumer advocates, though, see it as selling out.
MICHAEL JACOBSON, PhD, CENTER FOR
SCIENCE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST: These organizations,
every time they make an endorsement deal, are losing a little bit of
their credibility. People see these once objective, unbiased health
organizations as going commercial, and people know what that means.
People know that that means they simply can't be trusted as much as
they could if they were strictly non-commercial.
ROBERT DAVIS, PhD: But for
now, seals continue to drive sales and the organizations that issue
them continue to enjoy strong public trust.
WOMAN: "If that's their
way of getting money, then I guess it's okay with me. It doesn't
really erode my faith in it because I will look past that."
SHARYL ATTKISSON: If
health-group seals leave you confused, what can you do when you're
out there shopping? The People's Medical Society offers these tips
for comparing products: First, read the labels. Food labels must
list fat content, vitamin levels and other important nutrition
information, and drugs have to list active ingredients.
Beware of official looking seals that are actually created by
Ignore words like "doctor recommended," they are meaningless
And, if possible, look for an evaluation of the product by a
totally independent source, such as Consumer's Union.
Now for an update on a story we first told you about in July...
the dangers of giving children too much Tylenol or other drugs
containing acetaminophen. The maker of infant Tylenol recently
announced plans to add a warning to the label of the fruit-flavored
liquids, which are highly concentrated. The warning will tell
parents about the health risks of using more than the recommended
amount. Even small overdoses of the drug have been blamed for liver
damage and death in young children.
ASK THE DOCTOR
GIRL: "My brother gets nauseous when he rides
in a car or a plane for a long time period, and I was wondering if
there was any sort of medication or just a remedy to try to help him
resolve this problem."
DR. BRUCE DAN: Motion
sickness occurs when your eyes tell you that the world is moving
rapidly by, but your inner ears say you're sitting still. That
situation upsets your brain's nausea center, sending your stomach
out of whack. To bring your stomach under control, look far off into
the distance where the landscape isn't moving so fast. Or better
yet, simply close your eyes, cutting off one of the signals that's
confusing your brain. People who often get queasy when they travel
may want to try motion-sickness medications, Dramamine, for example.
But you have to use the medicine about an hour before the trip
begins. For adults, there are also skin patches containing the drug
scopolamine that you stick behind your ear. And here's a simple
remedy that's often overlooked in this era of air-conditioned cars:
try rolling down the window a crack. Sometimes a breath of fresh air
may be all the help you need. With "Ask the Doctor," I'm Dr. Bruce
SHARYL ATTKISSON: In just a few short nights,
the streets will be full of kids on the prowl for a lot of candy and
a really good scare. Most "grown-ups" have outgrown the caramel
apples and candy corn. But, for some reason, many of us never lose
our taste for the things that send a chill down our spines.
HealthWeek's Pat Anson in Los Angeles tells us why.
PAT ANSON: Fear. Perhaps
the most dreaded of human emotions... and strangely, one of the most
welcome. It's Halloween horror night at Universal Studios, and
people are waiting in line for hours, hoping to be scared out of
GIRL: "It's like fun to be
scared because like when the monsters pop out, you just scream and
you're like, oh God. It's fun, though."
STUART FISCHOFF, PhD: "We
like to be scared in a safe, controlled environment."
PAT ANSON: Stuart Fischoff
is an expert on the psychology of film. He says Halloween and horror
movies help satisfy a basic human instinct.
STUART FISCHOFF, PhD, CAL STATE
LA: "The research shows us pretty consistently that human
beings have a need for some kind of excitation. Sometimes it's
called an arousal jag. You have to get some really intense kind of
experience to kind of cleanse the system and check all the parts
that are working."
PAT ANSON: In a civilized,
sometimes dangerous society, real horror is something to be avoided.
So we turn to our imaginations and create our darkest fears.
MAN: "Life is too
ordinary. We need something that like jolts you every once in
awhile, that kind of gets the adrenaline flowing."
PAT ANSON, UNIVERSAL CITY,
CA: While most people may go to a haunted house or a
horror movie to feel fear, there are others who approach fear from a
different perspective -- they like to cause it.
JACK THE RIPPER: "I sort
of get a personal pleasure about feeling their fear, if you know
what I mean."
PAT ANSON: Notice amid the
screams how much laughter there is. It's all part of the experience,
what Professor Fischoff calls a "safe high."
STUART FISCHOFF, PhD: "All
these kinds of extraordinary experiences people use to test their
mettle and to prove that they can cope with stress and cope with
PAT ANSON: So the next
time you hear a blood curdling scream...
...or a seven foot monster sneaks up behind you, try to remember --
it just might be good for you.
SHARYL ATTKISSON: And if
you need any more proof that we love to be scared, here's a
statistic for you: One survey found that 89% of kids ages 10 to 13
had seen the horror flicks "Friday the Thirteenth" or "Nightmare on
Elm Street" at least once, and 62% had seen them at least four
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That address is www.pbs.org Next time on HealthWeek... is
testosterone the "miracle drug" that middle-aged men have been
waiting for? We'll look at the pros and cons of this new male trend.
And if you think your medical records are safe from prying eyes,
tune in for our report on medical privacy. What you learn might
disturb you. Plus we'll take you on a trip back in time to the dark
ages of dentistry. Until then, I'm Sharyl Attkisson. Be well!
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